Bagging Routes


Last year during the 2009 Bagger Challenge, I found myself outsmarted by friends and foes who were more efficient with the way they invested their bagging time and energy. 

As I drank fine Scotch whiskey from someone else's quaich of victory at the 2009 Baggers Banquet, I vowed to approach this year's challenge with a more strategic perspective.  This is an attempt to identify and share routes that are particularly appealing to running baggers (as opposed to hiking ones.)


Bag the maximum number of peaks that is safely possible in a single bagging expedition.


Identify and share bagging routes here as comments to this post.

Given that there are often many approaches to a particular peak and there are many ways to string together peaks, I propose that routes be given a name by those who are first to share them.  Out of respect for history and tradition, I recommend that credit be given to the person who was first to put a route together.  (e.g. the Grouse Grind is a well known route to the top of Grouse, so you can't name that route after yourself, but if your name is Joe Bob and you are the first to share a route that covers 5 peaks near Grouse Mountain via the Grouse Grind, I figure it's OK to refer to the route as "Bagger Joe Bob's 5 Grinder" or something like that.

Clearly, there is much gray area when it comes to naming.  If you feel a name for a particular route is inappropriate, then leave your comment with the reasons why you feel as you do and propose an alternative.


In order to be useful and understandable to as many baggers as possible, I believe routes should follow a similar format.  Here's the format I recommend:

  • name:  name you give to the route
  • start: where the route starts
  • peaks: bagger peaks that the route covers.  (Please refer to 50 North Shore Peaks)
  • finish: where the route finishes
  • estimated time:  the time it will take an average bagger to complete (e.g. the time you tell next of kin it will take you)
  • access to water:  where water is available en route
  • bailout points:  where it is possible to bail if things don't go according to plan
  • mobile coverage:  cell phone coverage if things don't go according to plan
  • proposed by:  give yourself and your companions credit!
  • details:  flush out the other details you feel are relevant to those who follow
  • alternatives:  note any alternative variations to your route someone else might appreciate knowing

If you have thoughts on other information that should be included in a route description, please share those thoughts as a comment. 

Note:  There is an initiative already underway as part of the Bagger Challenge to describe routes up individual peaks.  (e.g. Mount Gardner.  More to come as the season progresses.)  If you have thoughts and comments about individual peak routes, please share them under the appropriate peak.

Happy Bagging!



Lynn Peak via Hydraulic Creek

Thanks for the reply. I am trying to get an accurate idea of the route because I want to take my running group up but I am getting a reputation for underestimating the difficulty!
I want to go up Lynn Loop, turn right on the Lynn Peak trail, up to the Viewpoint, then from there along the ridge to the Hydraulic Creek Trail and down to Fisherman's. You say it is 1.5 - 3 hours from the view point to the Hydraulic Creeek (cutoff?). But you also say it is only 1 hour from the top of Hydraulic Creek Trail to Lynn Peak. It only looks like 2K from the Viewpoint to the top of the Hydraulic Creek Trail (although I am guessing because the trail doesn't show up on any maps) If this stretch could take 3 hours, then I am not understanding something about the route.
Ean Jackson's picture

Regarding the guestimation...

I get into trouble with my wife all of the time.  "I'll only be 2 hours, honey."  She knows to triple my guestimate and add some.

This relationship work for some, but not so good when others depend on your guestimate.

If I were you, I'd not bank on my guestimate.  How fast are you?  How fast is the slowest person?  How much water do you have?  How much do you need?  (Ain't none up there, brother.)  How lost do you plan on getting?  I wrote that report last year and, as noted, have not been back this year.

But the first time I went, I had no idea of how long it would take, so I booked out for the day.  Might be a good plan for your group, too.

BTW, from the saddle where you drop down to Hydraulic Creek to the top of the South Needle is not that long.  The view from the South Needle on a clear day is breathtaking.  I strongly recommend you plan to bag the South Needle while you're at it.

Have a good run!


Rick Arikado's picture

How not to bag Fromme

Written out in suggested format with photos at http://www.clubfatass.com/blog/rick-arikado/fromme-dumb-way 


Ean Jackson's picture

The Lynn Needles Circuit

Lynn Needles Circuit

Start: The End of the Line Cafe in North Vancouver.

Peaks: Lynn Peak (LYN) and the South Needle (SNE).  (Please refer to 50 North Shore Peaks)

Finish: The End of the Line Cafe in North Vancouver.

Estimated time:  5-6 hours

Access to water:  A fountain at the gazebo at the entrance to the LSCR (Lower Seymour Conservation Reserve.)  Hydraulic Creek on the hike up to the ridge.

Bailout points:  Take the more popular route down from Lynn Peak to Lynn Lake.

Mobile coverage:  Unknown

Proposed by:  Ean Jackson - 3 July 2010.  Accompanied by Paul Cubbon and Bernhard Neugirg.  


  • we parked near the End of the Line.  Paul and I ran roughly 7 K along the paved LSCR bike path to Hydraulic Creek rest area (45 minutes).  Bernhard rode his bicycle and stashed it in the trees
  • it took us roughly 60 minutes of hiking to get to the ridge.  Clear trail, well flagged.
  • went left to Lynn Peak.  Took about an hour to get to Lynn on a recently cleared and well-flagged trail.  Roughly the same back to the Hydraulic Creek saddle.  On the way back from Lynn Peak, be careful to not miss the cutoff to the ridge trail!
  • about 20 minutes from Hydraulic Creek trail to the South Needle.  Clear, well-marked trail.  A bit "airy" at the South Needle peak, but nothing to have an coronary over.  Same back down.  Bank on some time to enjoy the magnificent view on a clear day!
  • 45 minutes down Hydraulic Creek trail back to the bike path
  • 45 minutes back to the car
  • hard to get lost on this route, but 2/3 in our group did!  =;-)


  • we chose this route so that Bernhard could save the ~14K run to and from Hydraulic Creek.  It would be possible to save some time and the steep Hydraulic Creek hike up by running up to Lynn Peak from Lynn Lake, crossing the ridge to the south Needle then descending Hydraulic Creek to the bike path
Ryan Conroy's picture

Running up to Lynn Peak from Lynn Lake? Now that I'd like to see

bring your machete though!  Maybe you meant run up Lynn Peak from Headwaters or the LCSR?

There is an alternative route which involves class 3 scrambling if you climb up to the North Needle from the col between it and Coliseum.  At first it is not 100% obvious but if you go the right way in the right place it is supposed to be a lot better than in the South to North method I did it last year when I went down a steep gulley.  I believe this is where the trails from the Seymour side and the Lynn Creek side connect but I have yet to head this way.  Once you get to the Middle Needle its not so bad in either direction.

Definitely not for everyone but a very enthusiastic bagger could conceivably bag Coliseum, Burwell, Paton and all the peaks on Lynn Ridge by heading up through the trail past Paton that goes off the Trailway somewhere around 8 km (?),  bagging Coliseum and Burwell and then doing the slog across Lynn Ridge, and dropping down the Lynn Peak Trail.

Keep in mind I am not recommending this route to anyone at this point.  The 'trail' across the Needles is difficult if not impossible to find at times, and there is dangerous terrain all around, which is why not all are worth points in the Bagger Challenge.  As for myself I'm going to check it out.  I'll post when I get the chance.

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